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		<title>By: Organizing by Simplifying</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CindyW</title>
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		<dc:creator>CindyW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am often torn about green product advertisement. On the one hand, I don&#039;t think I would buy something just because it was presented to me. On the other hand, I don&#039;t under-estimate the power of product suggestion. We do have a huge consumer base in North America and we cannot shop our way out of any crises. 

That all said, the &quot;eco consumerism&quot; the article criticized did not represent the whole green movement. Many families and individuals have taken to reduce, reuse and recycle in their daily. They have less material focused. Even in the shopping world, most green-minded consumers buy local food instead of food shipped from another hemisphere. They buy better-cleaning solutions instead of the standard 409&#039;s. Are there people who are out there buying 10 pairs of chic shoes from &quot;eco-material&quot;? Yes, of course. Are there businesses out there that use the &quot;green&quot; logo to make a quick buck? absolutely. That&#039;s why we need to learn about the products and the companies that make them. 

I personally do not like buying more stuff for the sake of owning more stuff, whether the stuff is green or not. But to make a sweeping generalization that green movement is about green consumerism is silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am often torn about green product advertisement. On the one hand, I don&#8217;t think I would buy something just because it was presented to me. On the other hand, I don&#8217;t under-estimate the power of product suggestion. We do have a huge consumer base in North America and we cannot shop our way out of any crises. </p>
<p>That all said, the &#8220;eco consumerism&#8221; the article criticized did not represent the whole green movement. Many families and individuals have taken to reduce, reuse and recycle in their daily. They have less material focused. Even in the shopping world, most green-minded consumers buy local food instead of food shipped from another hemisphere. They buy better-cleaning solutions instead of the standard 409&#8217;s. Are there people who are out there buying 10 pairs of chic shoes from &#8220;eco-material&#8221;? Yes, of course. Are there businesses out there that use the &#8220;green&#8221; logo to make a quick buck? absolutely. That&#8217;s why we need to learn about the products and the companies that make them. </p>
<p>I personally do not like buying more stuff for the sake of owning more stuff, whether the stuff is green or not. But to make a sweeping generalization that green movement is about green consumerism is silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karen! Hey you. Good to see you around - actually I see you around at AW, just not on the same threads :) 

I agree, like flaming blogs, harsh articles can be a good way to garner attention, it&#039;s just sad that when people do that the writing comes off as wrong somehow; out there for all the wrong reasons. 

In any case, it&#039;s great to &quot;see&quot; you, I&#039;ll have to pop over to Be the Change, since Balance closed up shop I don&#039;t get around as much. (bad me)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen! Hey you. Good to see you around &#8211; actually I see you around at AW, just not on the same threads <img src='http://www.treehuggingfamily.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I agree, like flaming blogs, harsh articles can be a good way to garner attention, it&#8217;s just sad that when people do that the writing comes off as wrong somehow; out there for all the wrong reasons. </p>
<p>In any case, it&#8217;s great to &#8220;see&#8221; you, I&#8217;ll have to pop over to Be the Change, since Balance closed up shop I don&#8217;t get around as much. (bad me)</p>
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		<title>By: Karen L. Alaniz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen L. Alaniz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jennifer- Learning about green products and eco-friendly products is an ongoing process. I am not in the market for anything new right now.  But when am, you can bet that all of this reading I do on fab. blogs like this one, will come to mind. I agree with everyone who said the article was aiming to get a rise out of people.  It&#039;s an easy way for a journalist to get their article noticed- take the offensive. Where&#039;s the challenge in that? Keep up the great (blog) work!  It matters! ~Karen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jennifer- Learning about green products and eco-friendly products is an ongoing process. I am not in the market for anything new right now.  But when am, you can bet that all of this reading I do on fab. blogs like this one, will come to mind. I agree with everyone who said the article was aiming to get a rise out of people.  It&#8217;s an easy way for a journalist to get their article noticed- take the offensive. Where&#8217;s the challenge in that? Keep up the great (blog) work!  It matters! ~Karen</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it&#039;s always interesting to see the criteria they use to determine if a city is &quot;green&quot; or not.  Portland usually ranks as a very green city because of its recycling program, but they may be leaving out other important factors.  I think we actually do pretty well with commuters taking public transit, but not as well as larger cities such as NYC, where a larger part of the population relies on subways and buses to get around.  I don&#039;t drive, so I like that I can get around the city without a car.  This would have been impossible where I grew up!

Tiffany, I agree that it is probably a good idea to replace a toxin-filled mattress with an organic one for the sake of a child&#039;s health.  So I feel kind of bad for admitting that I haven&#039;t done that.  I bought our crib mattress right before hearing about how terrible conventional mattresses are.  I just hate feeling wasteful.  I didn&#039;t run out and replace that mattress, but I did decide that I&#039;d be careful with our next purchase, when she switches over to a twin-sized bed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it&#8217;s always interesting to see the criteria they use to determine if a city is &#8220;green&#8221; or not.  Portland usually ranks as a very green city because of its recycling program, but they may be leaving out other important factors.  I think we actually do pretty well with commuters taking public transit, but not as well as larger cities such as NYC, where a larger part of the population relies on subways and buses to get around.  I don&#8217;t drive, so I like that I can get around the city without a car.  This would have been impossible where I grew up!</p>
<p>Tiffany, I agree that it is probably a good idea to replace a toxin-filled mattress with an organic one for the sake of a child&#8217;s health.  So I feel kind of bad for admitting that I haven&#8217;t done that.  I bought our crib mattress right before hearing about how terrible conventional mattresses are.  I just hate feeling wasteful.  I didn&#8217;t run out and replace that mattress, but I did decide that I&#8217;d be careful with our next purchase, when she switches over to a twin-sized bed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rebecca, isn&#039;t it funny how PDX always pops up on greenest city lists - I always wonder if those people have actually been here, and seen the traffic and lack of carpooling. 7 years ago I moved from PDX to Humboldt because the traffic was getting nuts, when I moved back I moved to Vancouver, because the traffic had increased ten fold.  I guess the Max helps. :)

Tiffany, agreed. I don&#039;t think that article covered health much at all. For example, I pay more for some organic foods but not all, I base it on which have the most health benefits, I consider the green aspect, but it&#039;s more about Cedar&#039;s health.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rebecca, isn&#8217;t it funny how PDX always pops up on greenest city lists &#8211; I always wonder if those people have actually been here, and seen the traffic and lack of carpooling. 7 years ago I moved from PDX to Humboldt because the traffic was getting nuts, when I moved back I moved to Vancouver, because the traffic had increased ten fold.  I guess the Max helps. <img src='http://www.treehuggingfamily.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Tiffany, agreed. I don&#8217;t think that article covered health much at all. For example, I pay more for some organic foods but not all, I base it on which have the most health benefits, I consider the green aspect, but it&#8217;s more about Cedar&#8217;s health.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiffany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiffany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand replacing some things you don&#039;t need if you are also taking health into consideration. You may not NEED a new baby mattress but if you can afford a sustainable wool mattress without flame retardents I say go for it. Its not JUST about green ...it is also about your kids breathing in chemicals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand replacing some things you don&#8217;t need if you are also taking health into consideration. You may not NEED a new baby mattress but if you can afford a sustainable wool mattress without flame retardents I say go for it. Its not JUST about green &#8230;it is also about your kids breathing in chemicals.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live right across the river in Portland, Oregon, &quot;The Greenest City in America,&quot; according to . . . something I just read.  With the car seat cover example I mentioned above, parents would be replacing the original cover with an organic one for the health of their kids.  Many might label this action &quot;green,&quot; yet the effect would actually be worse for the environment than sticking with the original cover.  However, I&#039;ll admit it&#039;s not the best example.  As Jennifer points out, it is probably a good thing for little bodies not to be exposed to toxins in conventional fabrics.  (Here&#039;s where I admit to owning no organic fabric at all . . . I tend to buy things secondhand instead.)

A better example is probably the original one from the article: replacing vinyl floors with bamboo or something and calling it &quot;green.&quot;  Someone I know did this very thing, and everyone was complimenting her for reducing her carbon footprint.  Well, no . . . she didn&#039;t, really.  Of course, that wasn&#039;t her real goal, anyway: she just wanted nicer floors.

I really like the point you made above when you said you want people to love green ideas rather than shy away from them.  You&#039;re right--that article didn&#039;t do that at all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live right across the river in Portland, Oregon, &#8220;The Greenest City in America,&#8221; according to . . . something I just read.  With the car seat cover example I mentioned above, parents would be replacing the original cover with an organic one for the health of their kids.  Many might label this action &#8220;green,&#8221; yet the effect would actually be worse for the environment than sticking with the original cover.  However, I&#8217;ll admit it&#8217;s not the best example.  As Jennifer points out, it is probably a good thing for little bodies not to be exposed to toxins in conventional fabrics.  (Here&#8217;s where I admit to owning no organic fabric at all . . . I tend to buy things secondhand instead.)</p>
<p>A better example is probably the original one from the article: replacing vinyl floors with bamboo or something and calling it &#8220;green.&#8221;  Someone I know did this very thing, and everyone was complimenting her for reducing her carbon footprint.  Well, no . . . she didn&#8217;t, really.  Of course, that wasn&#8217;t her real goal, anyway: she just wanted nicer floors.</p>
<p>I really like the point you made above when you said you want people to love green ideas rather than shy away from them.  You&#8217;re right&#8211;that article didn&#8217;t do that at all!</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jennifer, that article was pretty unbearable. While some &quot;green&quot; clothing and products are very overpriced, buying many of the green products out there is a good thing (as long as you need them). The more consumers make their voices heard by buying organic, the more manufacturers will start behaving. And our water will be cleaner, and fish and wildlife won&#039;t have to suffer as much at the hands of pesticides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jennifer, that article was pretty unbearable. While some &#8220;green&#8221; clothing and products are very overpriced, buying many of the green products out there is a good thing (as long as you need them). The more consumers make their voices heard by buying organic, the more manufacturers will start behaving. And our water will be cleaner, and fish and wildlife won&#8217;t have to suffer as much at the hands of pesticides.</p>
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		<title>By: Hil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rebecca, for the parents, do you think their focus is the environment, or is it more their family&#039;s health ... or both? I don&#039;t live in an area where the green trend has caught on to that degree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rebecca, for the parents, do you think their focus is the environment, or is it more their family&#8217;s health &#8230; or both? I don&#8217;t live in an area where the green trend has caught on to that degree.</p>
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